In this episode Dale Peterson interviews Sandworm author and
Wired Senior Writer Andy Greenberg on the S4x20 Main Stage. They
focus on the ICS issues in the story.
The discussion includes:
What led Andy to write this book?
What response did people he interviewed want to these Sandworm
attack? Did he think any of these proposed responses would be
effective?
Should NATO Articles 4 and 5 been triggered in any of these
European cyber attacks?
Interviews with Obama and Trump officials on cyber norms to
agree not to do things like attack critical infrastructure. (They
didn't want to do this; they wanted to have the option to do
it.)
The USG concept of defending forward.
False flags used in Sandworm attacks, and the future of false
flags and misleading attribution.
Besides Sandworm, who were the villains in the book?
Why did he go and how scared was Andy when he went to Russia to
see the building where Sandworm worked?
Dale Peterson interviews guests who are pushing and prodding the ICS community to improve cyber security, as well as those in related fields with innovative ideas the ICS community should consider. Dale began his career as a NSA Cryptanalyst, has been securing ICS for over 20 years. He is the founder and program chair of the S4 Conference.